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Feldmahler, I noticed that I cannot view a file that is not-PD in the US if I click on it. If I'm logged in I get the warning banner with no clickable link to proceed. If I am not logged in I get the "File is unreviewed or not in the public domain" error. I also notice the site is significantly faster, is that only temporary? Is the public reopening still scheduled for the 1st, or today? Daphnis 11:42, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

And see the lang errors at the Dover page.

To add to Daphnis' observation, it appears that a fair number, perhaps most, of the publisher pages have similar translation error issues.Carolus 17:28, 29 June 2008 (EDT)
Thank you both! Please keep the bug reports coming (if you find any) :-) I may or may not fix them before the reopening, but I would like to find all critical bugs, so that something does not go terribly wrong. Sometimes the indication of a critical bug might seem very tiny, hence my interest in all bugs.
Daphnis, reopening is scheduled for around noon EST, June 30th. --Feldmahler 17:44, 29 June 2008 (EDT)
I added critical bugs to the Development page --Peter talk 18:12, 29 June 2008 (EDT)
Thanks! Though... Daphnis says the site is significantly faster, and you say the site is significantly slower... maybe we need a third opinion ;) Problem with the disclaimer links fixed. --Feldmahler 18:27, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

When I'm not logged in I'm still getting the "file not public domain in the U.S." error message when I try to view a non-PD file. Shouldn't the same disclaimer appear (with the "I agree..." download link) on all pages, or am I missing something? BTW, the title of that error message appears incorrect (<fmwcuspdisplay>). Daphnis 18:56, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

The message will be fixed, and the behavior is actually intended. I will contact you with more information about this after IMSLP reopens (currently trying to cut the amount of stuff that I absolutely have to do to a bare minimum, certainly nothing personal :) ). But do keep reporting anything you think to be a bug. --Feldmahler 19:03, 29 June 2008 (EDT)
Well, I'm not sure if this is also related, but when I am NOT logged in, clicking on a file that is PD in the US and clicking the agree link redirects me to the temporary wiki page. Daphnis 19:06, 29 June 2008 (EDT)
Very good; this is exactly the sort of bug that I would like to have info on. In this particular case it is indeed a bug, though it actually has nothing to do with whether you are logged in or not, but with the file name. The recent D'Indy file is an example of such. --Feldmahler 19:15, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

Further to what Daphnis said above ('clicking on a file that is PD in the US and clicking the agree link redirects me to the temporary wiki page')... it's just started doing that to me again. And I am logged in. Aldona 06:25, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

This should now be working correctly.
Should I give you more specific info. or do some testing? Daphnis 19:18, 29 June 2008 (EDT)
Sorry, my brain was not working today. I meant 'info' as in what you gave me already. I have found the bug, and it has just now been disposed of in my local copy of the code. I will upload all the changes and bugfixes at once later tonight or tomorrow morning. --Feldmahler 19:23, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

Some of the pieces over at the Webern page are afflicted by a phantom brace at the top. Daphnis 18:58, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Nearly all phantom braces are because of copyright templates with #iflang on them, but that the #iflang contain tables, in which case the '|' symbol will act as a template divider, not a table divider (and thus lead to havoc). I'm working on solving this problem. An alternate solution is to put the #iflang inside the table instead of outside, though that may not be possible for some templates.
I've really been limiting the use of several of the copyright templates, particularly the ones for works and files not PD in the EU and USA. The copyright tagging system, with its bold red "Non-PD in EU" (or USA) tag is sufficient. Thus, I've been deleting them from lots of work pages. I just had not gotten to Webern before the change in Mediawiki software was in place. BTW, the Romeo and Juliet (Tchaikovsky, Pyotr Ilyich) page has some issues, it would appear. The publication history that was there seems to have vanished altogether. Carolus 02:01, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Feldmahler, a user reported to me that he was unable to even view the Second Symphony page by Roussel, much less download this citing an error mentioning there not being any text in that page. Is there anything odd about this specific page, but not the first symphony (which was reportedly fine)? Daphnis 18:38, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

An update on the error: Apparently, it was a matter of the rights system as the user was in France and was still not able to download the file even though it's PD in the France. Daphnis 09:15, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Actually, there is no IP filtering. Is the entire page blank (no Mediawiki sidebar, etc.) or is it only the wiki page blank? This is exceedingly strange, because there should be no circumstances under which it may happen. --Feldmahler 13:15, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
I can see no reason why it would happen myself. Everything with the page seems to be in order. Daphnis 13:56, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
Here's another oddity I just noticed: On this page, the links for both workpages (numbers) and the file pages themselves do not work at all. I got an error message that the page didn't exist (No results) or that the file page was not linked to any other pages when I clicked on the respective links. I get the same thing on this page. However, this page works normally. Carolus 19:11, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
This is likely because of a mistake of mine. I will try to fix this via site maintenance tomorrow or Monday (I also have a ton of new features and fixes that need to be uploaded). It should only be persistant for a relatively small group of specific IMSLP index numbers; most should work fine. If you find any abnormalities with that, report it to me. :) --Feldmahler 21:13, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

Feldmahler, just keeping you informed that Carolus and I both agree (along with several reports from other users) that this error message seems to appear for any file not marked as verified in their region. As I understand it, this message should be generated for all unreviewed files (and is a temporary error at that, IIRC) either V/U/U, C/U/U, or U/U/U, but that there should only be a disclaimer for those determined as not verified in a user's location. Can this be disabled now, or is there going to be a fix? Is there any assistance I may offer here? Thanks for keeping us updated. Daphnis 12:52, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Features (and other things) that work just fine!

Since we have a section to report bugs, I hereby open a section to report things that DO work.

Creating a work page, uploading a file and adding info works. (tested it out with Devienne Flute Quartets).

Opening and downloading a work (selected at random) works. (tried it with Heller Caprice Brillant Op.33)

"Donate" feature works just fine (with paypal).

Keep up the good work!Aldona 23:17, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

I really do need a vacation when this is over, lol. --Feldmahler 00:11, 30 June 2008 (EDT)
Yep, you certainly deserve it! Daphnis 18:54, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Cheering...and Torrent info

First, another "yay" that it's back. Love the fixes to the layout on individual pieces -- much more streamlined and intuitive. As for the problem with the torrent, well the reason it doesn't work is because it's set to "example.com" as the tracker URL...obviously that's not right. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 16:46, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for the report. The bad tracker URL is on purpose, in order to force the software to use DHT (distributed tracker). Technically this should not be a problem (DHT is designed as a fallback in case of bad/offline trackers), but I can look more into it soon. --Feldmahler 21:10, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Great to "see you" again

Dear, How lovely to be back. This is indeed a day to celebrate. :D take care. nachoba

Thanks :) --Feldmahler 21:10, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Ditto. IMSLP is a tremendous resource. Thank you for making so much available to so many.

--Alkan 01:47, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Good to be here again

Hi there, it's nice to be back again. Those first weeks, I felt that something was missing, and that was MUSIC. :( I wasn't able to print nor read any no longer. I don't know what I did instead, maybe I studied more (?). Nevertheless, I realized: music must be shared. The same joy I felt before IMSLP was down, the same joy should everyone be able to feel.

I noticed that there is some CR-exam out there to take. I'll let you know that I am at our service (je suis à notre service). It would be my greatest pleasure to be able to help the community. --Funper talk 20:23, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Yep... the CR exam is in planning. Problem is that I am probably forced to take a few days off as vacation (before I implode from overwork)... so this would not get done until after a while. --Feldmahler 21:10, 30 June 2008 (EDT)
And speaking of being good to be back, we've now been slashdotted since I wrote in to them last night with the news of our re-opening. Hopefully this will attract quite a bit of support/users. Daphnis 09:14, 1 July 2008 (EDT)
Thank you for submitting that to Slashdot :) --Feldmahler 13:15, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

My small error - Adhemar Decq / Decq Adhemar

I made small mistake, when creating composer page, in the place for surname i wrote name, and in place for name, i wrote surname. It should be as follow: name: Adhemar, surname: Decq
Erm.. how to fix it? User:Arturo

Hello Arturo, I noticed your error and already fixed it. --Peter talk 08:28, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Uploading new versions of files

Feldmahler, the person I talked you about who wants to upload new versions from his collection is User:Caprotti (whom I unblocked). Do you happen to know an easy way to upload a new version of a file? Now you have to copy-paste the filename exactly, something which is not working well for some users... There should be a way to access the Image:xxx.pdf page where the link is to upload a new version.--Peter talk 11:16, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

I can have a link in the file template, but I don't know if it will clog it up? I will have to think more about this before implementing. In fact, I believe you can add a link in the file template via the FTE system without me changing anything in the code (don't think there is anything to change there). The FTE pages involved are Mediawiki:FTE:imslpfile for the body, and Mediawiki:FTE:imslpfileentry for each individual file entry in the multifile template. There are built-in testing pages; you can just append '/test' to the end of the FTE page title, and append '?' to the beginning of the FTE template use itself (ex. '#fte:?imslppage' instead of '#fte:imslppage'). This may be confusing, but I will be writing the documentation to this shortly, so don't worry :) --Feldmahler 13:15, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
Thanks --Peter talk 19:25, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
I'm actually looking forward to documentation of it, because I'm not understanding a single bit of it. I tried to change scanned by into typeset by, but just couldn't find my way.--Peter talk 05:38, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

¡Albricias!

Dear Feldmahler

It's an enormus joy to work again in IMSLP, and contribute for the free distribution of free knowledge.

From my part, I expect continue helping with the spanish translation of the site. I see myself as "official translator", and I want to thank you for that. But I fear that I can't understand correctly the new system for template's translation.

I want to start with Imslpcomposer, but can't encounter de correct guide.

Thanks and a happy reopening. Mr. Moonlight 16:57, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Welcome back Mr.Moonlight! I will be writing the guidelines on how to translate very soon (currently taking a 2-3 day semi-vacation, will resume work Friday night). Essentially, there are three FTE pages you need to translate: Mediawiki:FTE:imslppage:Messages, Mediawiki:FTE:imslpfile:Messages and Mediawiki:FTE:imslpfileentry:Messages. Simply create a page with '/es' at the end (ex. Mediawiki:FTE:imslppage:Messages/es), and translate the portion (right side) that needs to be translated (ignore the "do not translate" message, but don't translate the wikitext parts of these messages). You will need to purge the page cache (&action=purge) to see the translation changes on work pages, or you can automatically wait for it to purge in 3 days at most. --Feldmahler 17:53, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Damaged file

Hi Feldmahler,
would you please take a look at this? The downloaded file has only 792 kB. I've uploaded it again and purged the cache of the involved pages, but same problem. If you now go to the image page and click on the link of the archived file it works....in return the new file won't be displayed correctly. Regards, Hobbypianist 14:04, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

Thanks, it seems to work now. Hobbypianist 01:07, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Erratum (Beethoven 9, last movement, Dover)

Hi, Feldmahler, Welcome back. There are several pages missing between the scans of pp. 5 and 6; they are nowhere to be found in this movement. Eulenburg is complete for this opening excerpt. Thank you for all that you have done and all that you do for the colleagues and for the cause of our art.Ijackson 17:40, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Recording Section Legend

Hi, The legend as presently worded:

This section contains links to commercial interests not affiliated with the IMSLP. However, 10% of the price of any item purchased using the links below goes towards supporting IMSLP. This includes all items purchased before leaving the site. The price of the item itself is not increased.

Suggested revision:

This section contains links to commercial interests not affiliated with the IMSLP. However, a percentage of the price of any item purchased using the links below goes towards supporting IMSLP and its mission to keep this archive available free of charge to all users. The price of the linked item itself is not increased. This commission includes all items purchased before leaving the commercial site.

So far, all of the links tested work fine. One problem was noticed with IE (why am I not surprised?): When the "back" button is clicked in IE after jumping to the linked item at Amazon, one gets a "this page does not exist" message. Carolus 21:43, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

BTW, I haven't seen any commentary yet. Lyle Neff had a little bit of a rant over on the other thread. Carolus 01:24, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

The 'page does not exist' is probably some mechanism on Amazon's part that IE is choking over, I can look into it but I doubt I will be able to fix it. It also seems that the misunderstanding has to a large degree resolved; I intended the Amazon search to be more of a 'function' than an ad, and people now agree.
In other news, our friend Mr.Ken Clark who penned the original C&D letter is on the forums right now (though not posting). Take from that what you will... --Feldmahler 12:48, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
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