Dear Ctesibius, Please do not upload Google scores here unless you have removed all of the logos and metatags that Google inserts. Unfortunately, I had to delete all but one of the Perosi items you uploaded today because Google logos are present. (I fixed that particular item myself.) Please read our guidelines for contributors, especially the parts about Verifying copyright status. Thanks, Carolus 22:04, 9 October 2009 (UTC) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)
Hi again. Malipiero is not PD in Canada or the EU until 2024. Unless you have permission from the Copyright Owner, his works aren't postable here. Sorry!-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 15:24, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Dear Ctesibius, There's not much point in posting items of this description here, even though they may well pass muster as an urtext-type edition in the EU (maximum 30-year term) and are likely free in Canada. Due to our proximity to the USA, and the large amount of traffic received from there, we have a block on such items for the forseeable future in order to prevent lawsuits. (See the forums for a discussion of this issue.) Even for editions published between 1923 and 1963, it's a hit-or-miss proposition with respect to the US copyright status. For editions published between 1950 and 1963, you should check the renewal status at the US Copyright Office's online database before posting. The status of items issued between 1923 and 1949 is far more difficult to determine as there are no online renewal records. Confirmation of PD status is usually determined by the presence of the item as a reprint in the catalogues of Kalmus, Dover, Masters, et al. I'll leave the items you posted today in place, but they will be blocked for download until the US courts make a clear and definitive statement about what editions meet the "threshold of originality" to qualify for copyright protection. Carolus 17:07, 13 October 2009 (UTC) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)
Hi Ctesibius, thanks for the nice uploads of Jommelli operas. Nevertheless I have one suggestion to make: Perhaps it is nicer to have each act as a separate pdf-file. --BoccaccioTalk Email 12:29, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, You listed Alfred Heuss (1909-1995) as the editor for the Krieger volume published in 1905. This does not seem plausible as the editor would have been 4 when the volume was published. Carolus 04:23, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi Carolus, you are right. Sorry for the misrake and thanks for fixinf it
Hello!
I've noticed you uploading some DDT works and your interest in Dm Tk in Oest. There are special pages for these series - and templates for the publisher information, which would make your life just a little easier... see these pages...
and
Denkmaeler_der_Tonkunst_in_Oesterreich
--Homerdundas 16:26, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
(just realized that the second link was your work - :0 - I guess the other page of interest is Österreichischer_Bundesverlag - maybe we should merge them?) --Homerdundas 16:36, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi Homerdundas, yes you are right we should merge the pages. I created 3 pages Das Chorwerk Denkmaeler deutscher Tonkunst Denkmaeler der Tonkunst in Oesterreich for the moment I use them to keep track of what is in IMSLP. I created the pages today, so they are still buggy. Any ideas how to organize them. I saw the original template is more descriptive
Just a friendly reminder that our format is Piece, Op.#. Thanks-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 17:49, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Yep, just make sure to put PLACE: IMPRINT, DATE. PLATE ####-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 13:35, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello Ctesibius, I read the Wiki article on Lorenzo Perosi (about how he wrote thousands of works), which raised some alarm as he appears to have composed multiple settings of the same generic Latin text. While spelling out the exact choral/vocal combination as part of the title offers a possible solution to our title dilemma, my fear is that there will be multiple settings of the same generic text (like Tantum Ergo) for the same exact forces (like SATB chorus and organ) - which leaves us in the same quandry.
I am wondering if the best thing to do in cases like this would be to place all of the settings on the same work-page using the actual formal generic Latin title, using the second level hierarchy (4 equal signs) to designate the different settings with descriptions like tonality and the performing forces spelled out in the score. I did this for the two settings of Beatus Vir, so you can see what it looks like. Needless to say, any thoughts you have about this issue are greatly appreciated. I've also asked P. Davydov, who has a great deal of music library expertise, what his thoughts are on how to handle this issue. Best Wishes, Carolus 04:59, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
I discarded the first 'cos the collection is not anymore so popular and people do not know really about it. Th second for the reason exposed above, the third can be a solution, but only for the Melodie Sacre and not for other occasional pieces
Unfortunately there is no an ufficial catalogue of Perosi's works. It was expected last year, but it seems that Arturo Sacchetti is a bit late. When this will be available we can easily solve the problem with Opus number like Beatus Vir, PWV10, etc
Let's see what P. Davydov says. I will wait for his answer before uploading the remaining half of the collection. Ctesibius
Thanks for the help. Ctesibius
Missed "Romantic" and hit "Renaissance" on two concerti...piano....:)-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 16:06, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi Ctesibius,
as there are two sizeable collections (of 16 and 8 sonatas each) as well as six individual works (four of which are called sonatas) that would go under the catchall of "Violin Sonatas", it isn’t practical to put the two volumes of sonatas on the one page – and indeed, there was already a page for the Mystery Sonatas that you evidently overlooked.
Hence I've moved the newly scanned volume to that page, and I've moved the other volume of sonatas from DTÖ to a more appropriate page title for the collection, 8 Violin Sonatas, 1681. You may want to change the links on your user page as necessary.
Regards, Philip Legge @ © talk 01:02, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
PS many thanks for these uploads from DTÖ, DDT, Das Chorwerk, and elsewhere. In terms of requests for priority attention to scanning items in the collection, might I suggest there would be some interest in DTÖ volume 57, which is Monteverdi’s opera Il Ritorno d'Ulisse in Patria? Also in terms of Biber, while I have uploaded my own typeset of a movement of Missa Salisburgensis à 54 and also the hymn Plaudite tympana à 54, a scan of the full volume DTÖ 20 (where they are incorrectly ascribed to Orazio Benevoli) would be welcome, since I have no intention to typeset the remainder of the mass. PML
For Monteverdi I would like to scan the Malipiero edition (Madrigali). DTO57 is a big and large volume it will take a while.
As a general rule, please abstain from uploading the prefaces from collections like DDT and DTO, as they are frequently copyright in Canada. -- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 16:02, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Yep; just think of them as the "composers" of the preface.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 19:33, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Nice pages. In the future, please keep in mind the following:
Nice work! I look forward to your future uploads!
As an aside, how do you scan those volumes, as some are quite, quite thick.-- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 03:28, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
The Malipiero edition is not PD, because the continuo realizations are by Malipiero, and he is not PD, as you know. Sorry! -- Snailey Talk to Me Email me 15:56, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Outstanding contribution, Ctesibius. You might want to consider getting rid of Malipiero's preface in Vol. 1 when you have the opportunity. Thanks, Carolus 22:44, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Since the composers didn't compile these collections, the individual pieces should be split out and placed onto their respective pages. However, since it's also good to have the collection available as a whole, I moved them under Pozzoli's name. They can be split up at some later date by whoever wishes to do it. Thanks, Carolus 21:53, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello Ctesibius,
First of all, thanks so much for all of your wonderful contributions! For items like DTÖ first issued after 1963, they will be subjected to the infamous [TB] if they bear US-compliant copyright notice. Everything from 1964-1977 was automatically renewed and would be protected for a full 95-year term as long as the proper notice appeared. I just don't want you to spend a lot of time and effort to make a great scan only to be disappointed when the item is "temporarily blocked" due to its USA status. I suppose you could try to obtain permission from whoever is in control of DTÖ, in which case we could unblock it. Thanks, Carolus 19:54, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
I'll ask Feldmahler about doing this. They might be more amenable to an official request from us, but we really do not want to get into arguments with them over copyright interpretation either. IMSLP does not appear to be very popular with music publishers, so we have to be discreet. Oh, and yes you are correct - USA copyright is truly a beast!! Regards, Carolus 23:47, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Ctesibius! Unfortunately, the editor Ludwig Lebell appears to have died in 1968, making this edition under copyright everywhere except the US; I therefore had to delete it. Sorry, KGill talk email
y the way what make his contribution to be copyrighted. The fingers are already in the original (I have few pages of the A. Cranz edition). If I am not wrong in Europe for the (C) for technical edition is 20/25 years
Thx, --Ctesibius 13:52, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi Ctesibius! I'm italian too but seems to me that it's a consolitated habit to talk in english here so I'll write in english those lines to THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your wonderful submissions, I play every Sunday an organ with "temperamento mesotonico" and anthologies like "Cantantibus Organis", Dalla Libera's "Liber organi" and also Andrea Gabrieli's works have been truly a blessing for me!
I've also appreciated very much Desprez' Masses, I live near Milano and I had the occasion to knew his music when some years ago I heard one of his beautiful motets sung by the Cappella Musicale del Duomo!!!
Keep up the good work!!!
--Andrea89 02:50, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
I recently discovered my interest in music by Schütz and therefore was happy to find, that you seem to plan uploading those parts of the Schütz-Edition that are free now. As I'm especially interested in the Madrigals Op.1 (which seem to be published in 1962, so they should be out of copyright), I'd like to know if you have any plans to put them here somewhere in the (hopefully near) future. --BoccaccioTalk Email 11:54, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Oh that's good news. I'm already looking forward to more Schütz :-) --BoccaccioTalk Email 11:44, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I think the files you uploaded here will have to be deleted. Not only is there a continuo realization (which is probably under copyright in most places because it does seem at least slightly original), but Kolneder also added fingerings, bowings, dynamics, etc. - making it rather far from an urtext-style edition. Sorry, KGill talk email 16:18, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
--Ctesibius 13:44, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, We now have a template for this: {{FE}}, which automatically puts any page where it's used into the category Pages with First Editions. It makes life a bit easier too. Carolus 05:07, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
Many thanks for all the Morandi organ volumes, which are exactly what I've been looking-for for some time now. If you're planning to upload any more of these, I would also be particularly interested in Raccoltas 3 and 9, and am trying to identify the source for a Pastorale in D major. Any ideas? Best wishes, Kerr Jamieson, 19 July 2011.
Well, good luck! And thanks again for all you've done so far. -- KJ 07:38, 22 July 2011.