Talk:Georg Friedrich Händels Werke (Handel, George Frideric)

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Misleading title

Please note that the volumes listed on this page do not represent a "Complete Works Edition" of Handel. The 103 volumes published by the Händel-Gesellschaft (between 1858 and 1902) did not include approximately 250 works by Handel. For more detail, please see the Wikipedia article Händel-Gesellschaft. Also, the HWV numbers at the WP article should be used in preference to the numbers listed in the sub-pages to this article (which contain many errors and omissions). GFHandel 00:23, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

It is an attempt to be complete. No complete works edition on this website is complete (esp. Liszt and Mendelssohn). However, since they list themselves as gesamtausgaben, we have chosen this title scheme.-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 03:11, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I seem to have misinterpreted you. This is merely a warning, not an intent to move. Cheers-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 03:32, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
"It is an attempt to be complete"—that's a nice theory, but unfortunately the statement is unsupportable. The exact wording found in the volumes is "Georg Friedrich Händel's Werks. Ausgabe der Deutschen Händelgesellschaft" which translates as "Georg Friedrich Handel's works. Edition of the German Handel Society". The 105 volumes were a money-making venture and there is no evidence that they were supposed to be complete, so it is a pity that someone coming to this article may be deceived into thinking that they have just stumbled onto every single work written by Handel. GFHandel 21:04, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

@GFHandel: Over and above what Perlnerd666 mentioned already about the generally incomplete nature of such "complete editions", please note that we are in the process of splitting some of these Chrysander volumes so that the individual works will end up with their own pages here (and the correct HWV number hopefully). The article over at Wikipedia is good, so we'll be sure to include a link to it here. Carolus 06:34, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

As an aside, you may want to see this page for a discussion of the already-accomplished splitting of one of these volumes. KGill talk email 20:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Only in the sense that it demonstrates further problems at IMSLP. GFHandel 21:04, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi, GFH alerted me to this discussion. (I'm User:Tony1 on the English Wikipedia). I can't understand why IMSLP is going along with the "complete" in this case, and could do its users a service by adjusting such titles. Tony1 02:38, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Again, they bill themselves as complete works editions. Not only that, but how else could you bill them? See my comment above about completeness. NBA is not complete. NMA is not complete. It's OK that they aren't-- Snailey (_@/) Talk to Me Email me 02:40, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

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